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	<title>Comments on: Jenga mathematics</title>
	<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/</link>
	<description>The blog of John D. Cook</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-474</guid>
		<description>Oooo... How about the Riemann-Roch-Atiyah-Hirzebruch  (did I leave anyone out?) theorem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooo&#8230; How about the Riemann-Roch-Atiyah-Hirzebruch  (did I leave anyone out?) theorem?</p>
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		<title>By: JPR</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-466</link>
		<dc:creator>JPR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-466</guid>
		<description>The axioms for homology theory come to mind, too.  These are first verified as a theorem for a simple case such as simplicial homology but then become the defining axioms for any generic homology theory.  Or much more simply, think of the axioms for a metric given that they are first known to hold in usual Euclidean space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The axioms for homology theory come to mind, too.  These are first verified as a theorem for a simple case such as simplicial homology but then become the defining axioms for any generic homology theory.  Or much more simply, think of the axioms for a metric given that they are first known to hold in usual Euclidean space.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Henty</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Henty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-458</guid>
		<description>I think the notion of "semi-locally 1-connected" topological space is Jenga mathematics; it's exactly 
the condition on the base space of a covering map that makes homotopy lifting work.  Unless it has 
other consequences I don't know about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the notion of &#8220;semi-locally 1-connected&#8221; topological space is Jenga mathematics; it&#8217;s exactly<br />
the condition on the base space of a covering map that makes homotopy lifting work.  Unless it has<br />
other consequences I don&#8217;t know about.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 09:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-457</guid>
		<description>The Stone-Weierstrass theorem is an excellent example. Stone generalized the Weierstass approximation theorem, but the essential idea belonged to Weierstrass; Stone shouldn't get top billing.

I agree with Thomas Nyberg that Stone's generalization is useful. Stone not only weakened the hypotheses, he simplified the proof. But the S-W theorem is starting to become inverted: some of the proof details are exposed in the hypothesis. Further generalizations are less original and more inverted.

Many theorems from number theory were turned into abstract algebra theorems simply by applying vocabulary that didn't exist when the theorem was originally stated. That's valuable, but the theorem shouldn't be named after the person who updated the language.

I've tried to think of egregious examples of inverted proofs, but such theorems are inherently unmemorable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Stone-Weierstrass theorem is an excellent example. Stone generalized the Weierstass approximation theorem, but the essential idea belonged to Weierstrass; Stone shouldn&#8217;t get top billing.</p>
<p>I agree with Thomas Nyberg that Stone&#8217;s generalization is useful. Stone not only weakened the hypotheses, he simplified the proof. But the S-W theorem is starting to become inverted: some of the proof details are exposed in the hypothesis. Further generalizations are less original and more inverted.</p>
<p>Many theorems from number theory were turned into abstract algebra theorems simply by applying vocabulary that didn&#8217;t exist when the theorem was originally stated. That&#8217;s valuable, but the theorem shouldn&#8217;t be named after the person who updated the language.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried to think of egregious examples of inverted proofs, but such theorems are inherently unmemorable.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Nyberg</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Nyberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 04:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-454</guid>
		<description>Stone-Weierstrass theorem is an example (though I wouldn't call the generalization useless...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stone-Weierstrass theorem is an example (though I wouldn&#8217;t call the generalization useless&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 19:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/#comment-444</guid>
		<description>Can you give some examples?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you give some examples?</p>
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