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		<title>By: Walking Randomly &#187; The 46th Carnival of Mathematics &#8211; the last one of 2008.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walking Randomly &#187; The 46th Carnival of Mathematics &#8211; the last one of 2008.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] booklet I found in the library.  John also submitted his most popular post of 2008 &#8211; Jenga Mathematics which is more than worthy of your [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Speyer</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/05/11/jenga-mathematics/comment-page-1/#comment-12509</link>
		<dc:creator>David Speyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree with the last two examples. Given two homology theories, it is very hard to check that they agree. Topologists at the beginning of the twentieth century had simplicial homology, singular homology, DeRham homology, Cech homology and no doubt some others I am missing. Being able to prove they coincided by checking the axioms was a major breakthrough. Thus, I would say that the axiomatizing of homology was not an example of Jenga math but the discovery of a great strategy for proving homology theories coincide. 

I might be willing to agree that the Grothendieck-Riemman-Roch formula is an example of Jenga math. (Yes, I am leaving out Atiyah, Singer, Bott, Hirzebruch and possibly others.) However, if so, then it is an example of why Jenga math is sometimes worth doing. There are three major improvements from the original RR to the current version, and all of them are important for problems which mathematicians actually care about every day. 

The original RR considered a holomorphic vector bundle L on a complex curve X. We have a &quot;derivative&quot; (the proper term is a dbar-connection) on L, whose kernel are the holomorphic sections. The original RR expressed the holomorphic Euler characteristic -- roughly, the dimension of the kernel of this operator minus the dimension of its cokernel -- in terms of purely toplogical facts about L and X. 

This is useful, but mathematicians want to study complex varieties other than curves. Hirzebuch figured out how to permit X to be a smooth compact complex variety of any dimension, and L to be a vector bundle rather than a line bundle.

Atiyah, Singer and Bott figured out how to replace dbar by more general differential operators. I am not clear on why this is useful, but my friends in differential geometry tell me they use the more general form all the time.

Finally, Grothendieck figured out how to handle the case where L and X vary in a continuous family, and you want to understand how the holomorphic Euler characteristic varies. He realized that holmorphic Euler characteristic describes, in a formal sense, the &quot;variation when mapping to a point&quot; and forced himself to write the whole proof to work for any (proper) map. This shows up all the time in my own work, and the work of tons of other algebraic geometers. Moreover, by forcing himsself to consider the problem in such a high level of generality, he actually came up with one of the shortest and most elegant proofs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with the last two examples. Given two homology theories, it is very hard to check that they agree. Topologists at the beginning of the twentieth century had simplicial homology, singular homology, DeRham homology, Cech homology and no doubt some others I am missing. Being able to prove they coincided by checking the axioms was a major breakthrough. Thus, I would say that the axiomatizing of homology was not an example of Jenga math but the discovery of a great strategy for proving homology theories coincide. </p>
<p>I might be willing to agree that the Grothendieck-Riemman-Roch formula is an example of Jenga math. (Yes, I am leaving out Atiyah, Singer, Bott, Hirzebruch and possibly others.) However, if so, then it is an example of why Jenga math is sometimes worth doing. There are three major improvements from the original RR to the current version, and all of them are important for problems which mathematicians actually care about every day. </p>
<p>The original RR considered a holomorphic vector bundle L on a complex curve X. We have a &#8220;derivative&#8221; (the proper term is a dbar-connection) on L, whose kernel are the holomorphic sections. The original RR expressed the holomorphic Euler characteristic &#8212; roughly, the dimension of the kernel of this operator minus the dimension of its cokernel &#8212; in terms of purely toplogical facts about L and X. </p>
<p>This is useful, but mathematicians want to study complex varieties other than curves. Hirzebuch figured out how to permit X to be a smooth compact complex variety of any dimension, and L to be a vector bundle rather than a line bundle.</p>
<p>Atiyah, Singer and Bott figured out how to replace dbar by more general differential operators. I am not clear on why this is useful, but my friends in differential geometry tell me they use the more general form all the time.</p>
<p>Finally, Grothendieck figured out how to handle the case where L and X vary in a continuous family, and you want to understand how the holomorphic Euler characteristic varies. He realized that holmorphic Euler characteristic describes, in a formal sense, the &#8220;variation when mapping to a point&#8221; and forced himself to write the whole proof to work for any (proper) map. This shows up all the time in my own work, and the work of tons of other algebraic geometers. Moreover, by forcing himsself to consider the problem in such a high level of generality, he actually came up with one of the shortest and most elegant proofs.</p>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooo... How about the Riemann-Roch-Atiyah-Hirzebruch  (did I leave anyone out?) theorem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooo&#8230; How about the Riemann-Roch-Atiyah-Hirzebruch  (did I leave anyone out?) theorem?</p>
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		<title>By: JPR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The axioms for homology theory come to mind, too.  These are first verified as a theorem for a simple case such as simplicial homology but then become the defining axioms for any generic homology theory.  Or much more simply, think of the axioms for a metric given that they are first known to hold in usual Euclidean space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The axioms for homology theory come to mind, too.  These are first verified as a theorem for a simple case such as simplicial homology but then become the defining axioms for any generic homology theory.  Or much more simply, think of the axioms for a metric given that they are first known to hold in usual Euclidean space.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Henty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Henty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the notion of &quot;semi-locally 1-connected&quot; topological space is Jenga mathematics; it&#039;s exactly 
the condition on the base space of a covering map that makes homotopy lifting work.  Unless it has 
other consequences I don&#039;t know about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the notion of &#8220;semi-locally 1-connected&#8221; topological space is Jenga mathematics; it&#8217;s exactly<br />
the condition on the base space of a covering map that makes homotopy lifting work.  Unless it has<br />
other consequences I don&#8217;t know about.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 09:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Stone-Weierstrass theorem is an excellent example. Stone generalized the Weierstass approximation theorem, but the essential idea belonged to Weierstrass; Stone shouldn&#039;t get top billing.

I agree with Thomas Nyberg that Stone&#039;s generalization is useful. Stone not only weakened the hypotheses, he simplified the proof. But the S-W theorem is starting to become inverted: some of the proof details are exposed in the hypothesis. Further generalizations are less original and more inverted.

Many theorems from number theory were turned into abstract algebra theorems simply by applying vocabulary that didn&#039;t exist when the theorem was originally stated. That&#039;s valuable, but the theorem shouldn&#039;t be named after the person who updated the language.

I&#039;ve tried to think of egregious examples of inverted proofs, but such theorems are inherently unmemorable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Stone-Weierstrass theorem is an excellent example. Stone generalized the Weierstass approximation theorem, but the essential idea belonged to Weierstrass; Stone shouldn&#8217;t get top billing.</p>
<p>I agree with Thomas Nyberg that Stone&#8217;s generalization is useful. Stone not only weakened the hypotheses, he simplified the proof. But the S-W theorem is starting to become inverted: some of the proof details are exposed in the hypothesis. Further generalizations are less original and more inverted.</p>
<p>Many theorems from number theory were turned into abstract algebra theorems simply by applying vocabulary that didn&#8217;t exist when the theorem was originally stated. That&#8217;s valuable, but the theorem shouldn&#8217;t be named after the person who updated the language.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried to think of egregious examples of inverted proofs, but such theorems are inherently unmemorable.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Nyberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Nyberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 04:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stone-Weierstrass theorem is an example (though I wouldn&#039;t call the generalization useless...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stone-Weierstrass theorem is an example (though I wouldn&#8217;t call the generalization useless&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 19:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you give some examples?</description>
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