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	<title>Comments on: The Holy Grail of CSS</title>
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		<title>By: mat roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/08/14/the-holy-grail-of-css/comment-page-1/#comment-26361</link>
		<dc:creator>mat roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve seen &lt;a&gt;CSS Zen Garden&lt;/a&gt;, but I&#039;ll mention it anyway.  Shows what you can do with CSS knowledge (and design talent).

The problem with CSS for most folks is its declarative nature.  Like other declarative mini languages,  regex/SQL, it&#039;s powerful but requires a change in mindset.

I have a love/hate relationship with CSS.  Parts of it are awesome - like descent selectors.   But some simple things seem incredibly difficult - like centring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve seen <a>CSS Zen Garden</a>, but I&#8217;ll mention it anyway.  Shows what you can do with CSS knowledge (and design talent).</p>
<p>The problem with CSS for most folks is its declarative nature.  Like other declarative mini languages,  regex/SQL, it&#8217;s powerful but requires a change in mindset.</p>
<p>I have a love/hate relationship with CSS.  Parts of it are awesome &#8211; like descent selectors.   But some simple things seem incredibly difficult &#8211; like centring.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Brinkman</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/08/14/the-holy-grail-of-css/comment-page-1/#comment-16998</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Brinkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In databases we have a name for how to deal with this problem.  It&#039;s called denormalization.  Use a simple single row, 3 column table and be done with it.  A little table goes a long ways to making CSS behave across all browsers.  Purists will cringe, but your website users will love you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In databases we have a name for how to deal with this problem.  It&#8217;s called denormalization.  Use a simple single row, 3 column table and be done with it.  A little table goes a long ways to making CSS behave across all browsers.  Purists will cringe, but your website users will love you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/08/14/the-holy-grail-of-css/comment-page-1/#comment-4274</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The URL I posted in the last comment was maimed. It should be
http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_float6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The URL I posted in the last comment was maimed. It should be<br />
<a href="http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_float6" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_float6</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gene Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/08/14/the-holy-grail-of-css/comment-page-1/#comment-4208</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I decided to bite the bullet and get started with CSS. I&#039;m not looking for the holy grail. (I lost my belief in Silver Bullets and the Holy Grail long ago.) I just want an attractive and easily changed website. I found this example so fascinating that it kicked off the whole process. http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_float6. It&#039;s overly simplified, but it demonstrated the power of CSS layout for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I decided to bite the bullet and get started with CSS. I&#8217;m not looking for the holy grail. (I lost my belief in Silver Bullets and the Holy Grail long ago.) I just want an attractive and easily changed website. I found this example so fascinating that it kicked off the whole process. <a href="http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_float6" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3schools.com/css/tryit.asp?filename=trycss_float6</a>. It&#8217;s overly simplified, but it demonstrated the power of CSS layout for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/08/14/the-holy-grail-of-css/comment-page-1/#comment-4093</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I remember a number of years back thinking that I needed to port a Web site to CSS.  I came upon an online discussion between CSS experts debating the best way at the time to approximate the &quot;Holy Grail&quot; you describe above, and after reading all of it, decided I&#039;d simply wait.  No regrets...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I remember a number of years back thinking that I needed to port a Web site to CSS.  I came upon an online discussion between CSS experts debating the best way at the time to approximate the &#8220;Holy Grail&#8221; you describe above, and after reading all of it, decided I&#8217;d simply wait.  No regrets&#8230;</p>
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