I think Aristotle may have given us the correct answer to this conundrum of dueling podcasts: “seek moderation in all things”.

I also think perhaps for all of our hypotheses and liquid chromatography and mass spectrometers and carefully measured results, we can’t really isolate all the variables for the complex problem of how arteries clog and how to prevent it. There’s too much opinion reflected in the “facts” these studies present. There’s also a fundamental acceptance that everyone has the same body chemistry and therefore one size fits all with the solution.