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	<title>Comments on: Where does the programming effort go?</title>
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		<title>By: New programmer&#8217;s survival manual &#8212; The Endeavour</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2009/03/18/where-does-the-programming-effort-go/comment-page-1/#comment-122258</link>
		<dc:creator>New programmer&#8217;s survival manual &#8212; The Endeavour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Where does programming effort go? Coming full circle Writing software is harder than writing books [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The plumber programmer &#8212; The Endeavour</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2009/03/18/where-does-the-programming-effort-go/comment-page-1/#comment-115227</link>
		<dc:creator>The plumber programmer &#8212; The Endeavour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Where does programming effort go? Your job is trivial (but I couldn&#8217;t do it) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Derrick</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2009/03/18/where-does-the-programming-effort-go/comment-page-1/#comment-36311</link>
		<dc:creator>Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 01:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this.  Somewhat related, I see developers trying to use Database abstraction layers, such as JDO, JPA, or Hibernate, when they could have written nice SQL and something like Spring&#039;s JDBCtemplate.  The crux of an application is usually not the SQL.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, ORM tools - and things of this nature - have their place, but some developers think they have to use them for every project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this.  Somewhat related, I see developers trying to use Database abstraction layers, such as JDO, JPA, or Hibernate, when they could have written nice SQL and something like Spring&#8217;s JDBCtemplate.  The crux of an application is usually not the SQL.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, ORM tools &#8211; and things of this nature &#8211; have their place, but some developers think they have to use them for every project.</p>
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		<title>By: just guessing</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2009/03/18/where-does-the-programming-effort-go/comment-page-1/#comment-35996</link>
		<dc:creator>just guessing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just guessing, maybe it can help:
functional programming in haskell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just guessing, maybe it can help:<br />
functional programming in haskell</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Styles</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2009/03/18/where-does-the-programming-effort-go/comment-page-1/#comment-35955</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Styles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just a software specific definition of the age old phrase: &quot;The devil&#039;s in the  details.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a software specific definition of the age old phrase: &#8220;The devil&#8217;s in the  details.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Paul Lefebvre</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2009/03/18/where-does-the-programming-effort-go/comment-page-1/#comment-35939</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Paul Lefebvre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 01:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I gain more experience I actually feel I do more housekeeping than real programming. I learn about more security flaws and keep adding security layer, be it for the input/output or the system itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I gain more experience I actually feel I do more housekeeping than real programming. I learn about more security flaws and keep adding security layer, be it for the input/output or the system itself.</p>
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		<title>By: BasG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BasG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on this. You are rightfully a a bit cynic about the next silver bullet, but in the last decades the abstraction at which programs are encoded and the reusability of components have increased tremendously. I also believe there is a maximum treshold of plumbing that we can code, say a maximum amount of complexity we can keep track of. So as long as we do the same amount of plumbing, but make use of more abstractions and reusable components, we still can achieve better and bigger software than we did a decade ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on this. You are rightfully a a bit cynic about the next silver bullet, but in the last decades the abstraction at which programs are encoded and the reusability of components have increased tremendously. I also believe there is a maximum treshold of plumbing that we can code, say a maximum amount of complexity we can keep track of. So as long as we do the same amount of plumbing, but make use of more abstractions and reusable components, we still can achieve better and bigger software than we did a decade ago.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moeller</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t know the context of her quote, but she could be talking about any &lt;strike&gt;software&lt;/strike&gt; project.&quot;

Fixed that for ya.  :-)

I agree completely, though.  A lot of people think that I left industry for grad school because of the plumbing.  I knew, though, that I was just trading for a different kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t know the context of her quote, but she could be talking about any <strike>software</strike> project.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fixed that for ya.  <img src='http://www.johndcook.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree completely, though.  A lot of people think that I left industry for grad school because of the plumbing.  I knew, though, that I was just trading for a different kind.</p>
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