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	<title>Comments on: Better tools, less productivity?</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/01/06/better-tools-less-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-107804</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has programmed in excess of 8 hours/day for the past 40 odd years I like to keep up with new stuff, but never got around to dotnet until recently. I installed VS 2010 Express as recommended, but to be honest I find the interface ugly and extremly kludgey and slow compared to VS 2005 that I was using previously.
If anyone has a tip for making the MMI look and respond like VS 2005 I&#039;d be grateful, I&#039;m wasting a lot of time just trying to select lines the cursor positioning is very finicky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has programmed in excess of 8 hours/day for the past 40 odd years I like to keep up with new stuff, but never got around to dotnet until recently. I installed VS 2010 Express as recommended, but to be honest I find the interface ugly and extremly kludgey and slow compared to VS 2005 that I was using previously.<br />
If anyone has a tip for making the MMI look and respond like VS 2005 I&#8217;d be grateful, I&#8217;m wasting a lot of time just trying to select lines the cursor positioning is very finicky.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/01/06/better-tools-less-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-61695</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I generally am the person who likes to be using the latest version of whatever software (especially at the beginning of a project).  But really, I think there are only three times when one should consider new technologies: the first is when the tricks and techniques you have learned with the old can no longer keep up with a novice user of the new technology; when your starting a new project long term project and you have a little time to trade the newer approaches against each other and the old approach; and finally if the old technology is costing you in diminishing sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally am the person who likes to be using the latest version of whatever software (especially at the beginning of a project).  But really, I think there are only three times when one should consider new technologies: the first is when the tricks and techniques you have learned with the old can no longer keep up with a novice user of the new technology; when your starting a new project long term project and you have a little time to trade the newer approaches against each other and the old approach; and finally if the old technology is costing you in diminishing sources.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnMaria</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/01/06/better-tools-less-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-30664</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnMaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, yes ! I am very fortunate to work at a university where keeping up with, supporting and evangelizing is my job. I program probably 15-20 hours a week on all sorts of projects. However, when I look at new technology, whether  a new version, new language, whatever, often my initial response is often &quot;You have GOT to be &amp;*(ing kidding me?!&quot; 

I am pretty smart (four degrees) and have buckets of experience but when I look at something that would take a solid week of my time just to figure out the installation, it often goes on to the spaceship pile, that is, the things that will get done after finishing the spaceship I am building in my basement - and first I will have to dig a basement.

Once a week or so I listen to earnest vendors wanting to show me the lovely graphics or fantastic data mining capabilities of their software and try to gently explain to them that first I need to get the #$%ing thing to work, to read in my data from SQL or SAS, to connect to our high-performance computing cluster and I do NOT have a week or two or three to do nothing but mess with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, yes ! I am very fortunate to work at a university where keeping up with, supporting and evangelizing is my job. I program probably 15-20 hours a week on all sorts of projects. However, when I look at new technology, whether  a new version, new language, whatever, often my initial response is often &#8220;You have GOT to be &amp;*(ing kidding me?!&#8221; </p>
<p>I am pretty smart (four degrees) and have buckets of experience but when I look at something that would take a solid week of my time just to figure out the installation, it often goes on to the spaceship pile, that is, the things that will get done after finishing the spaceship I am building in my basement &#8211; and first I will have to dig a basement.</p>
<p>Once a week or so I listen to earnest vendors wanting to show me the lovely graphics or fantastic data mining capabilities of their software and try to gently explain to them that first I need to get the #$%ing thing to work, to read in my data from SQL or SAS, to connect to our high-performance computing cluster and I do NOT have a week or two or three to do nothing but mess with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Rodrigues</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/01/06/better-tools-less-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-30418</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Rodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leapfrog would be the best way to go because you definitely don&#039;t need to master every new tool that enters the market. And does this seem just the case with tools created by Microsoft? Don&#039;t think tools like those for C, Python, etc change so fast and so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leapfrog would be the best way to go because you definitely don&#8217;t need to master every new tool that enters the market. And does this seem just the case with tools created by Microsoft? Don&#8217;t think tools like those for C, Python, etc change so fast and so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/01/06/better-tools-less-productivity/comment-page-1/#comment-30379</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a full time professional programmer, and it&#039;s a fantastic amount of work to try and keep up with technological change.  I think your leap frog strategy is the way for everyone really.  I need to see a decent user base and positive experience before learning something new.

Most users of a software technology (including me) are at the beginner end of the spectrum.  But most software seems to be designed with power users in mind.  I think this is a problem.  

I work in the Microsoft world.  A few years ago VB6 and an Access Database was a popular platform for the hobbyist programmer.  It let folks knock something up which probably did  an OK job (but boy was it ugly).  I now work with C# and the .net framework, and I think it&#039;s really good.   I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d recommend it to a hobbyist though, there just so much of it.  In the MS world there&#039;s no real successor to VB6 and Access.

If you want to knock up a website, your only real choice as a hobbyist is php.  You can download a virtual machine with a fully configured stack (OS, DB, Web Server and Php), and get going.  There&#039;s lots of stuff written in it like Wordpress and Wikipedia, and you can probably find a content management platform you could start with, and then just hack a bit as necessary.  But again, it&#039;s ugly.  You could try Rails, and you may well get much better code, but as a hobbyist I think the conceptual leap to using Ruby may just stop you getting started.

It&#039;s almost like, simplicity for the beginner (and hence widespread popularity), leads to an inherent ugliness as the software grows larger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a full time professional programmer, and it&#8217;s a fantastic amount of work to try and keep up with technological change.  I think your leap frog strategy is the way for everyone really.  I need to see a decent user base and positive experience before learning something new.</p>
<p>Most users of a software technology (including me) are at the beginner end of the spectrum.  But most software seems to be designed with power users in mind.  I think this is a problem.  </p>
<p>I work in the Microsoft world.  A few years ago VB6 and an Access Database was a popular platform for the hobbyist programmer.  It let folks knock something up which probably did  an OK job (but boy was it ugly).  I now work with C# and the .net framework, and I think it&#8217;s really good.   I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d recommend it to a hobbyist though, there just so much of it.  In the MS world there&#8217;s no real successor to VB6 and Access.</p>
<p>If you want to knock up a website, your only real choice as a hobbyist is php.  You can download a virtual machine with a fully configured stack (OS, DB, Web Server and Php), and get going.  There&#8217;s lots of stuff written in it like Wordpress and Wikipedia, and you can probably find a content management platform you could start with, and then just hack a bit as necessary.  But again, it&#8217;s ugly.  You could try Rails, and you may well get much better code, but as a hobbyist I think the conceptual leap to using Ruby may just stop you getting started.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost like, simplicity for the beginner (and hence widespread popularity), leads to an inherent ugliness as the software grows larger.</p>
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