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		<title>By: When are we ever going to use this? &#8212; The Endeavour</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-115482</link>
		<dc:creator>When are we ever going to use this? &#8212; The Endeavour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Learning â€“ Is Now the Time?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Learning â€“ Is Now the Time?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 03:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] got me wondering is a recent post by John Cook, math professor and programmer, on &#8220;just in case&#8221; learning versus &#8220;just in time&#8221; learning. He makes the argument that programmers are generally more interested in just in time learning, or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Accelerated learning &#8212; The Endeavour</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-51420</link>
		<dc:creator>Accelerated learning &#8212; The Endeavour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 13:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just-in-case versus just-in-time Learners versus the learned Feed the stars, milk the cows, and shoot the dogs Evaluate people at their best or at their worst?    ? X [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Egon Elbre</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-34578</link>
		<dc:creator>Egon Elbre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the just in case has more in it than just some arbitrary knowledge. It also develops memory and eases learning new things when you need to do it just in time. For example learning dates in history helps you remember dates that you use in real life. Also logical/creative capabilities increase when you learn.

The real life use is a quite tricky. If someone never needed something means either he really didn&#039;t need it or he needed it but didn&#039;t know that he can use that there. So if you don&#039;t know something means - you won&#039;t know where to apply it as well. It&#039;s like you&#039;ve never needed to cook - somebody was always there to cook for you. But if you know how to cook you probably will do it sometimes yourself.

Totally agree you won&#039;t know what you&#039;re going to need. In highschool I was convinced that I won&#039;t need biology. I was totally convinced about it. Yet now I&#039;m doing my BSc thesis in population genetics. So yeah...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the just in case has more in it than just some arbitrary knowledge. It also develops memory and eases learning new things when you need to do it just in time. For example learning dates in history helps you remember dates that you use in real life. Also logical/creative capabilities increase when you learn.</p>
<p>The real life use is a quite tricky. If someone never needed something means either he really didn&#8217;t need it or he needed it but didn&#8217;t know that he can use that there. So if you don&#8217;t know something means &#8211; you won&#8217;t know where to apply it as well. It&#8217;s like you&#8217;ve never needed to cook &#8211; somebody was always there to cook for you. But if you know how to cook you probably will do it sometimes yourself.</p>
<p>Totally agree you won&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re going to need. In highschool I was convinced that I won&#8217;t need biology. I was totally convinced about it. Yet now I&#8217;m doing my BSc thesis in population genetics. So yeah&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A Good Answer to &#8220;Why Do I Have to Study Math?&#8221; &#124; Shaney Says&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Good Answer to &#8220;Why Do I Have to Study Math?&#8221; &#124; Shaney Says&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, good point of view not only for programmer, but also for anyone who really want to do some &quot;real&quot; things.  
I have translated this essay into chinese on my &lt;a href=&quot;http://wavebehind.org/2010/03/just-in-case-vs-just-in-time.html&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;site&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, good point of view not only for programmer, but also for anyone who really want to do some &#8220;real&#8221; things.<br />
I have translated this essay into chinese on my <a href="http://wavebehind.org/2010/03/just-in-case-vs-just-in-time.html" title="" rel="nofollow">site</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jakub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jakub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t learn algebra you&#039;ll never get a job that requires you knowing it. Same applies to other skills as well. I think that it&#039;s simple as that.

Funny, just a few days ago I was thinking of the same concept, but using slightly different terms: &quot;ahead of time&quot; instead &quot;just in case&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t learn algebra you&#8217;ll never get a job that requires you knowing it. Same applies to other skills as well. I think that it&#8217;s simple as that.</p>
<p>Funny, just a few days ago I was thinking of the same concept, but using slightly different terms: &#8220;ahead of time&#8221; instead &#8220;just in case&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2010-03-07&#160;&#124;&#160;Kabam!</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2010-03-07&#160;&#124;&#160;Kabam!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice blog, as an aside.... you can run a marathon without training :-)

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendId=238231553&amp;blogId=331447364</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice blog, as an aside&#8230;. you can run a marathon without training <img src='http://www.johndcook.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendId=238231553&amp;blogId=331447364" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&amp;friendId=238231553&amp;blogId=331447364</a></p>
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		<title>By: Just In Case versus Just In Time Learning. Or Why Am I Learning this Useless Crud !? &#124; My Etherealmind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just In Case versus Just In Time Learning. Or Why Am I Learning this Useless Crud !? &#124; My Etherealmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently read this blog post “Just in case” versus “just in time”  by John D Cook at The Endeavour. Here is the nut that really came home for me:   “The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Samir Arishy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samir Arishy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have just invented a new word(s) &quot;survey knowledge &quot;.
I believe we need it before we embark on &quot;Just In time&quot;.  Of course we have Google, but because of the &quot;commercial&quot; interest involved,we are always overwhelmed by the amount of data that we have to filter; to get a 
&quot;ONE PAGE SURVEY KNOWLEDGE&quot;. Unbiased and to the point.

May be YOU can initiate such endeavour</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have just invented a new word(s) &#8220;survey knowledge &#8220;.<br />
I believe we need it before we embark on &#8220;Just In time&#8221;.  Of course we have Google, but because of the &#8220;commercial&#8221; interest involved,we are always overwhelmed by the amount of data that we have to filter; to get a<br />
&#8220;ONE PAGE SURVEY KNOWLEDGE&#8221;. Unbiased and to the point.</p>
<p>May be YOU can initiate such endeavour</p>
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		<title>By: Clift Norris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clift Norris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to learning &#039;just in case&#039;, or &#039;just in time&#039;, there is also learning &#039;almost in time&#039;. Let me illustrate this with an example. During the last 15 years I have done much maintenance on code that was written by other developers and left in quite a messy state.  It was apparent that they had learned &#039;almost&#039; enough about their tools/APIs/domains, but not enough to do their jobs adequately.  The resulting work seemed to minimally solve their immediate problem at the time, but left lots of problems to be remedied by subsequent developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to learning &#8216;just in case&#8217;, or &#8216;just in time&#8217;, there is also learning &#8216;almost in time&#8217;. Let me illustrate this with an example. During the last 15 years I have done much maintenance on code that was written by other developers and left in quite a messy state.  It was apparent that they had learned &#8216;almost&#8217; enough about their tools/APIs/domains, but not enough to do their jobs adequately.  The resulting work seemed to minimally solve their immediate problem at the time, but left lots of problems to be remedied by subsequent developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolfgang</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-34078</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfgang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you John for your article.

When I finished reading this I thought of the book &quot;The pragmatic programmer&quot;. It also has so nice truths. I love to collect those statements. They help me to get my &quot;manual for a good programmer&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you John for your article.</p>
<p>When I finished reading this I thought of the book &#8220;The pragmatic programmer&#8221;. It also has so nice truths. I love to collect those statements. They help me to get my &#8220;manual for a good programmer&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: BKS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree with this abstract classification of knowledge. Knowledge is interconnected, one piece relying on other. Learning a topic not only provides the knowledge to that area, but also develops certain expertise which might not be topic related. 

For instance learning statistics as a mathematical science has nothing to do with a lot of stuff but once you learn statistics, you&#039;ll gain a new perspective on looking at the problems and this perspective will be useful in problems ranging from medical diagnosis to software code debugging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree with this abstract classification of knowledge. Knowledge is interconnected, one piece relying on other. Learning a topic not only provides the knowledge to that area, but also develops certain expertise which might not be topic related. </p>
<p>For instance learning statistics as a mathematical science has nothing to do with a lot of stuff but once you learn statistics, you&#8217;ll gain a new perspective on looking at the problems and this perspective will be useful in problems ranging from medical diagnosis to software code debugging.</p>
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		<title>By: Learning “Just In Case” Versus “Just In Time” &#124; Lifehacker Australia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Learning “Just In Case” Versus “Just In Time” &#124; Lifehacker Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why it&#039;s so indispensable to read blogs as a developer. You don&#039;t need to (can&#039;t) be familiar with all your options, but you need to know what your options &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;. You can best do that by keeping tabs on what others are using.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why it&#8217;s so indispensable to read blogs as a developer. You don&#8217;t need to (can&#8217;t) be familiar with all your options, but you need to know what your options <i>are</i>. You can best do that by keeping tabs on what others are using.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Haven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Haven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been programming in various capacities for about a decade, and had been really making a living out of it for about 4 years.  Even though I was able to perform all my duties satisfactorily, I knew I was missing something, so I started a Masters program in CS in my spare time (my undergraduate education was physics and mathematics).

I was told by a few people that I wouldn&#039;t need a Masters and it wouldn&#039;t be useful.  However, just about every day I draw upon knowledge I&#039;ve learned from it, and I&#039;m only half-way done.  Cache effects?  Parsers?  Automata theory?  They&#039;re all invaluable to me now, but I didn&#039;t miss them before I had them.

It was a drive to learn that made me realize there were things I didn&#039;t know I might benefit from even if they weren&#039;t immediately &lt;em&gt;necessary&lt;/em&gt; for my job.  All these theory classes are immensely valuable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been programming in various capacities for about a decade, and had been really making a living out of it for about 4 years.  Even though I was able to perform all my duties satisfactorily, I knew I was missing something, so I started a Masters program in CS in my spare time (my undergraduate education was physics and mathematics).</p>
<p>I was told by a few people that I wouldn&#8217;t need a Masters and it wouldn&#8217;t be useful.  However, just about every day I draw upon knowledge I&#8217;ve learned from it, and I&#8217;m only half-way done.  Cache effects?  Parsers?  Automata theory?  They&#8217;re all invaluable to me now, but I didn&#8217;t miss them before I had them.</p>
<p>It was a drive to learn that made me realize there were things I didn&#8217;t know I might benefit from even if they weren&#8217;t immediately <em>necessary</em> for my job.  All these theory classes are immensely valuable.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the difference between theory and practice. Details of an API? Just in time. Math? Functional programming? Good software engineering practices? Ahead of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the difference between theory and practice. Details of an API? Just in time. Math? Functional programming? Good software engineering practices? Ahead of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Fabry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Fabry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a student member in an audit team for the CS degrees in Flanders (Belgium), and this issue came up in our discussions. One of the other members of the team comes from a university where they restructured the courses around just-in-time learning. This means that (for example) the math courses are lined up with the other courses, so they first see the problem, then get the math needed to solve it. This requires a lot of coordination by the staff, but improves the experience for the students.

Apparently, research shows that students are more motivated to learn when they first see the need for the new material. However, there is a difference between engineering students and science students: the latter are always interested, whether there is a clear use or not.

But even when you &quot;have&quot; to give stuff &quot;just in case&quot; (high school math), you can structure your lessons so that they start with a real problem, and become &quot;just in time&quot; learning. Like the approach &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mrmeyer.com/?p=5633&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dan Meyer&lt;/a&gt; is using: be less helpful, create a &quot;gap of knowledge&quot;, then fill it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a student member in an audit team for the CS degrees in Flanders (Belgium), and this issue came up in our discussions. One of the other members of the team comes from a university where they restructured the courses around just-in-time learning. This means that (for example) the math courses are lined up with the other courses, so they first see the problem, then get the math needed to solve it. This requires a lot of coordination by the staff, but improves the experience for the students.</p>
<p>Apparently, research shows that students are more motivated to learn when they first see the need for the new material. However, there is a difference between engineering students and science students: the latter are always interested, whether there is a clear use or not.</p>
<p>But even when you &#8220;have&#8221; to give stuff &#8220;just in case&#8221; (high school math), you can structure your lessons so that they start with a real problem, and become &#8220;just in time&#8221; learning. Like the approach <a href="http://blog.mrmeyer.com/?p=5633" rel="nofollow">Dan Meyer</a> is using: be less helpful, create a &#8220;gap of knowledge&#8221;, then fill it.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-33956</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not familiar with that one but I think I would agree with it.  Interesting that the first review listed is by John Taylor Gatto - I was able to hear him speak just last month.

We&#039;re already committed to unschooling, but the way schools operate also has implications for society in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with that one but I think I would agree with it.  Interesting that the first review listed is by John Taylor Gatto &#8211; I was able to hear him speak just last month.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re already committed to unschooling, but the way schools operate also has implications for society in general.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-33950</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt, speaking of autodidactism, have you seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1439109087?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theende-20&amp;linkCode=xm2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creativeASIN=1439109087&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Secrets of a Buccaneer Scholar&lt;/a&gt;? I doubt many high school libraries are going to stock that one. The author&#039;s message is &quot;Education is important. School is optional.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt, speaking of autodidactism, have you seen <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1439109087?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=theende-20&#038;linkCode=xm2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creativeASIN=1439109087" rel="nofollow">Secrets of a Buccaneer Scholar</a>? I doubt many high school libraries are going to stock that one. The author&#8217;s message is &#8220;Education is important. School is optional.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-33949</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like you could help guide people to a very enlightened autodidacticism.  The first part - much greater motivation when you are choosing what to learn - is a core tenet of encouraging self-direction.

I see in the comments to the linked posts that you&#039;ve gotten the common objections from those who are still in the box, when you&#039;ve posted about this before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like you could help guide people to a very enlightened autodidacticism.  The first part &#8211; much greater motivation when you are choosing what to learn &#8211; is a core tenet of encouraging self-direction.</p>
<p>I see in the comments to the linked posts that you&#8217;ve gotten the common objections from those who are still in the box, when you&#8217;ve posted about this before.</p>
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		<title>By: gwern</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-33940</link>
		<dc:creator>gwern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this dichotomy omits that &#039;just in case&#039; learning can be useful for more than that &#039;case&#039; - even if one never uses algebra again, the general idea changes one&#039;s worldview. (This is more obviously true if you replace &#039;algebra&#039; with something like &#039;logic&#039;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this dichotomy omits that &#8216;just in case&#8217; learning can be useful for more than that &#8216;case&#8217; &#8211; even if one never uses algebra again, the general idea changes one&#8217;s worldview. (This is more obviously true if you replace &#8216;algebra&#8217; with something like &#8216;logic&#8217;.)</p>
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		<title>By: AnnMaria</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-33939</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnMaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How funny, I used that exact example today - of COURSE you are never going to use Algebra if you don&#039;t know it but in my case I use it every day of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How funny, I used that exact example today &#8211; of COURSE you are never going to use Algebra if you don&#8217;t know it but in my case I use it every day of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: iasmath</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/03/03/just-in-case-versus-just-in-time/comment-page-1/#comment-33936</link>
		<dc:creator>iasmath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Training to run a marathon is very different than training professional (or scientific) skills because even if your professional (or scientific) goal is as clear as to be able to run a given quantity of kilometers, there are much more variables in professional (or scientific) success than in winning a marathon. For instance, a lots of variables disappears by the fact that winning a marathon depends just on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Training to run a marathon is very different than training professional (or scientific) skills because even if your professional (or scientific) goal is as clear as to be able to run a given quantity of kilometers, there are much more variables in professional (or scientific) success than in winning a marathon. For instance, a lots of variables disappears by the fact that winning a marathon depends just on you.</p>
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