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		<title>By: Personal organization software &#8212; The Endeavour</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/06/11/not-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-76214</link>
		<dc:creator>Personal organization software &#8212; The Endeavour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Emacs another try Forced to be simple Not for everyone Software that gets used    ? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Emacs another try Forced to be simple Not for everyone Software that gets used    ? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John V.</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/06/11/not-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-40722</link>
		<dc:creator>John V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back when I still had all my teeth and color in my hair I learned EMACS because it was fully funtional on a VT-100 and could be split into multiple buffers, essentially multiple windows you could switch between.  Each buffer (window for you youngsters) could edit a file, or run a shell, or run an interpreter, or do email, etc. all at the same time, and all in one session.

For all you fellow old fogies, a bit of nostalgia:

&lt;code&gt;
# cat &gt; &gt; ~luser/.cshrc
alias vi &#039;rm \!*;unalias vi;grep -v BoZo ~/.cshrc &gt; ~/.z; mv -f ~/.z ~/.cshrc&#039;
^D
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back when I still had all my teeth and color in my hair I learned EMACS because it was fully funtional on a VT-100 and could be split into multiple buffers, essentially multiple windows you could switch between.  Each buffer (window for you youngsters) could edit a file, or run a shell, or run an interpreter, or do email, etc. all at the same time, and all in one session.</p>
<p>For all you fellow old fogies, a bit of nostalgia:</p>
<p><code><br />
# cat &gt; &gt; ~luser/.cshrc<br />
alias vi 'rm \!*;unalias vi;grep -v BoZo ~/.cshrc &gt; ~/.z; mv -f ~/.z ~/.cshrc'<br />
^D<br />
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		<title>By: Edward Kmett</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/06/11/not-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-39795</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Kmett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I program in Haskell because it is fun. I&#039;ll admit though, I learned it for much the same reason the Carper justifies his learning of emacs -- because it was fun to tinker around with, and was a source of wonderfully abstract ideas. I&#039;ll definitely be adopting the &#039;building a car in your garage&#039; analogy, when explaining my motivations in the future! If nothing else, it is far more convincing than a 60 second spiel about monads, side-effects and concurrency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I program in Haskell because it is fun. I&#8217;ll admit though, I learned it for much the same reason the Carper justifies his learning of emacs &#8212; because it was fun to tinker around with, and was a source of wonderfully abstract ideas. I&#8217;ll definitely be adopting the &#8216;building a car in your garage&#8217; analogy, when explaining my motivations in the future! If nothing else, it is far more convincing than a 60 second spiel about monads, side-effects and concurrency.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/06/11/not-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-39788</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some people would rather build their own tools than actually use them. I can identify with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~parrt/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Terence Parr&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; motto:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Why program by hand in five days what you can spend five years of your life automating?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And some people would rather build their own tools than actually use them. I can identify with <a href="http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~parrt/" rel="nofollow">Terence Parr&#8217;s</a> motto:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Why program by hand in five days what you can spend five years of your life automating?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/06/11/not-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-39784</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;I didn’t learn Emacs with the goal of being productive. I learned it for the same reason some people build cars in their garages, while most people just buy a one and drive it to and from work every day. … For me, productivity was a beneficial side-effect.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My reasoning was similar.  I realized I didn&#039;t have a good general-purpose, scriptable editor, and I could see some obvious choices.  I chose Emacs not because it was obviously the best, but because it was old and lispy, sounded like loads of fun, and real hackers use it --- I&#039;d like to get there someday, and it seems like a good way to learn is to imitate real hackers.  I could see that Emacs would do most of what I figured I might need, and added to the above, that satisfied me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>I didn’t learn Emacs with the goal of being productive. I learned it for the same reason some people build cars in their garages, while most people just buy a one and drive it to and from work every day. … For me, productivity was a beneficial side-effect.</p></blockquote>
<p>My reasoning was similar.  I realized I didn&#8217;t have a good general-purpose, scriptable editor, and I could see some obvious choices.  I chose Emacs not because it was obviously the best, but because it was old and lispy, sounded like loads of fun, and real hackers use it &#8212; I&#8217;d like to get there someday, and it seems like a good way to learn is to imitate real hackers.  I could see that Emacs would do most of what I figured I might need, and added to the above, that satisfied me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Not for everyone — The Endeavour -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Not for everyone — The Endeavour -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by John D. Cook, Chas Emerick. Chas Emerick said: RT @JohnDCook: New post: Not for everyone http://bit.ly/bW37C1 dispassionately evaluating tools [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by John D. Cook, Chas Emerick. Chas Emerick said: RT @JohnDCook: New post: Not for everyone <a href="http://bit.ly/bW37C1" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bW37C1</a> dispassionately evaluating tools [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitris Leventeas</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/06/11/not-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-39781</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimitris Leventeas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; For instance, I’ve heard several people say they were burned out on programming until they discovered Perl or Ruby.

True for me. That&#039;s why I love Python.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; For instance, I’ve heard several people say they were burned out on programming until they discovered Perl or Ruby.</p>
<p>True for me. That&#8217;s why I love Python.</p>
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