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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris B: The possibilities you list are reasonable, though I&#039;m skeptical of your last paragraph. The article implied that the postman&#039;s supervisor was aware of his route but was powerless to make it official. 

I have little confidence in the ability of bureaucracies to do the sensible thing in a reasonable amount of time. For example, maybe for political reasons the inefficient route cannot be changed until the person who designed it retires. However, now that the story has gotten some press, the route may be officially changed ASAP. So much of bureaucratic life is about optimally allocating embarrassment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris B: The possibilities you list are reasonable, though I&#8217;m skeptical of your last paragraph. The article implied that the postman&#8217;s supervisor was aware of his route but was powerless to make it official. </p>
<p>I have little confidence in the ability of bureaucracies to do the sensible thing in a reasonable amount of time. For example, maybe for political reasons the inefficient route cannot be changed until the person who designed it retires. However, now that the story has gotten some press, the route may be officially changed ASAP. So much of bureaucratic life is about optimally allocating embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris B</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While this does seem ludicrous on the surface, I can think of a few good reasons for such a thing to happen.

1 - Safety. If something were to happen to a postman during his route, it may be important to know what mail had been delivered and what hadn&#039;t, as well as where he was and the next destination.  All this information is tied up in the route.

2 - Scheduling. Some people may know when their mail arrives and plan activities around it. Changing the route may require customers to adjust schedules.

3 - Accuracy/Completeness. If the postmen are allowed to design their own routes, it would be quite possible for errors to occur and addresses to be omitted. Route changes need to be reviewed to ensure that all mail is delivered correctly.

4 - Efficiency. I know this seems oxymoronic in this case, but if we have a bunch a vigilante postmen re-routing themselves on their whimsy, it would be highly likely for one of them to design a less efficient route. In fact, it could be in their interest to do so since they could perform less work and possibly retain their pay.

My hunch is that there is a procedure for changing routes that was not followed here. I imagine that had the postman filed the proper paperwork, the route adjustments could have been made and reviewed for accuracy, completeness, safety, efficiency, etc and all would be well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this does seem ludicrous on the surface, I can think of a few good reasons for such a thing to happen.</p>
<p>1 &#8211; Safety. If something were to happen to a postman during his route, it may be important to know what mail had been delivered and what hadn&#8217;t, as well as where he was and the next destination.  All this information is tied up in the route.</p>
<p>2 &#8211; Scheduling. Some people may know when their mail arrives and plan activities around it. Changing the route may require customers to adjust schedules.</p>
<p>3 &#8211; Accuracy/Completeness. If the postmen are allowed to design their own routes, it would be quite possible for errors to occur and addresses to be omitted. Route changes need to be reviewed to ensure that all mail is delivered correctly.</p>
<p>4 &#8211; Efficiency. I know this seems oxymoronic in this case, but if we have a bunch a vigilante postmen re-routing themselves on their whimsy, it would be highly likely for one of them to design a less efficient route. In fact, it could be in their interest to do so since they could perform less work and possibly retain their pay.</p>
<p>My hunch is that there is a procedure for changing routes that was not followed here. I imagine that had the postman filed the proper paperwork, the route adjustments could have been made and reviewed for accuracy, completeness, safety, efficiency, etc and all would be well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 03:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dan I agree that unionized environments aren&#039; t the only place with fiefdoms but they are also often a cause for making employers fear change. In any other environment I&#039;ve worked if the employees try to do something the boss doesn&#039;t like the boss wins. In union shops for better or worse any change including improvements has to be discussed and negotiated to death before it can be implemented.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan I agree that unionized environments aren&#8217; t the only place with fiefdoms but they are also often a cause for making employers fear change. In any other environment I&#8217;ve worked if the employees try to do something the boss doesn&#8217;t like the boss wins. In union shops for better or worse any change including improvements has to be discussed and negotiated to death before it can be implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 00:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Mike, It&#039;s not a problem unique to Unions and not a problem of all Unions or Union employees.  I&#039;m thankful for the Union  that my father worked in while I was young. My father is thankful in his retirement.

Inertia, fiefdoms and various other interests often resist change for the better, often to the frustration of analytical types.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike, It&#8217;s not a problem unique to Unions and not a problem of all Unions or Union employees.  I&#8217;m thankful for the Union  that my father worked in while I was young. My father is thankful in his retirement.</p>
<p>Inertia, fiefdoms and various other interests often resist change for the better, often to the frustration of analytical types.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 21:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dan I agree with your logic. Managers and unions have spend generations justifying why they need exactly the number of workers they have. Doing things better means either your manager is incompetent or that the union workers actually aren&#039;t working as hard as they&#039;d have the government believe. Either way someone looks bad, the boss might get fired or at least have their prestige go down since they&#039;ll manage fewer people, unions might raise a stink creating headaches for the managers and more work for everyone in short no one wins when you get caught doing things smarter. 

Do your work smarter then sleep on the job for a longer period of time. That is the key to union work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan I agree with your logic. Managers and unions have spend generations justifying why they need exactly the number of workers they have. Doing things better means either your manager is incompetent or that the union workers actually aren&#8217;t working as hard as they&#8217;d have the government believe. Either way someone looks bad, the boss might get fired or at least have their prestige go down since they&#8217;ll manage fewer people, unions might raise a stink creating headaches for the managers and more work for everyone in short no one wins when you get caught doing things smarter. </p>
<p>Do your work smarter then sleep on the job for a longer period of time. That is the key to union work.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Bud Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;q&gt;And I understand why: large organizations have to maintain consistency. The clever postman must be reprimanded for the good of the system, but it’s maddening when you’re the postman.&lt;/q&gt;

The part I question here is &lt;q&gt;the good of the system&lt;/q&gt; because it could mean anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><q>And I understand why: large organizations have to maintain consistency. The clever postman must be reprimanded for the good of the system, but it’s maddening when you’re the postman.</q></p>
<p>The part I question here is <q>the good of the system</q> because it could mean anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 06:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to run a small used book business, selling books on the internet.  This involved visiting the post office 5-6 days per week to mail out the books which had sold the previous day.  The clerks all knew me, and I was one of their most regular customers.  I only shipped books, never anything else, using the cheapest shipment option (media mail).

And yet, they would &lt;b&gt;always&lt;/b&gt; ask me if I wanted delivery confirmation or insurance, and if the package &quot;contained anything liquid, perishable, flammable or potentially hazardous&quot;.  The answers to each question for each package was no.  Before I exited the book business, I was probably asked the same questions 3000-4000 times, by the same set of 5 clerks at the post office.  I asked a few of them why they always asked me the same questions when they knew the answers.  They&#039;re required to, and they can get in trouble if they don&#039;t.  That was the whole answer.  Sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to run a small used book business, selling books on the internet.  This involved visiting the post office 5-6 days per week to mail out the books which had sold the previous day.  The clerks all knew me, and I was one of their most regular customers.  I only shipped books, never anything else, using the cheapest shipment option (media mail).</p>
<p>And yet, they would <b>always</b> ask me if I wanted delivery confirmation or insurance, and if the package &#8220;contained anything liquid, perishable, flammable or potentially hazardous&#8221;.  The answers to each question for each package was no.  Before I exited the book business, I was probably asked the same questions 3000-4000 times, by the same set of 5 clerks at the post office.  I asked a few of them why they always asked me the same questions when they knew the answers.  They&#8217;re required to, and they can get in trouble if they don&#8217;t.  That was the whole answer.  Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve: Thanks for the link to Sean Taylor&#039;s post. The &quot;What your statistical software says about you&quot; section is funny, and I suspect to a large extent true. Love the Julia line. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: Thanks for the link to Sean Taylor&#8217;s post. The &#8220;What your statistical software says about you&#8221; section is funny, and I suspect to a large extent true. Love the Julia line. <img src='http://www.johndcook.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SteveBrooklineMA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveBrooklineMA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This seems like something you would have an opinion on John:

http://seanjtaylor.com/post/39573264781/the-statistics-software-signal]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems like something you would have an opinion on John:</p>
<p><a href="http://seanjtaylor.com/post/39573264781/the-statistics-software-signal" rel="nofollow">http://seanjtaylor.com/post/39573264781/the-statistics-software-signal</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Gelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Gelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 00:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John:

The postman&#039;s story reminds me of the angry reaction I got from some blog readers when I revealed that I spend 15 minutes to review articles submitted to journals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>The postman&#8217;s story reminds me of the angry reaction I got from some blog readers when I revealed that I spend 15 minutes to review articles submitted to journals.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bolton</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this sort of thing interests you and your readers, I heartily recommend &lt;em&gt;Seeing Like a State&lt;/em&gt; by James C. Scott.  http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Like-State-Institution-University/dp/0300078153

---Michael B.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this sort of thing interests you and your readers, I heartily recommend <em>Seeing Like a State</em> by James C. Scott.  <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Like-State-Institution-University/dp/0300078153" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Like-State-Institution-University/dp/0300078153</a></p>
<p>&#8212;Michael B.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there were a more efficient route that did not introduce additional safety risk, and that similar efficiencies could be found on at least some other routes, then the work could be done  with current number of workers - n.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there were a more efficient route that did not introduce additional safety risk, and that similar efficiencies could be found on at least some other routes, then the work could be done  with current number of workers &#8211; n.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nahr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Nahr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Certainly, and I should add that this postman&#039;s unusual efficiency did make him suspicious when mail vanished. He would likely have avoided the court hearing if he had been working more slowly, even though the accusations were not about that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly, and I should add that this postman&#8217;s unusual efficiency did make him suspicious when mail vanished. He would likely have avoided the court hearing if he had been working more slowly, even though the accusations were not about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am reminded of a story told to me by a coworker. He once received a through dressing down from a supervisor for completing a job in two hours instead of the union-mandated eight.  Not even a case of getting in trouble of using your head, but just for not sitting around on your butt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of a story told to me by a coworker. He once received a through dressing down from a supervisor for completing a job in two hours instead of the union-mandated eight.  Not even a case of getting in trouble of using your head, but just for not sitting around on your butt.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris: Thanks for the research. 

As I&#039;d alluded in the article, even if the report as I saw it were not correct, it&#039;s entirely believable that something like this could happen. It &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: Thanks for the research. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;d alluded in the article, even if the report as I saw it were not correct, it&#8217;s entirely believable that something like this could happen. It <em>does</em> happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nahr</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Nahr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I looked up the German source referred to by this article (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.merkur-online.de/nachrichten/bayern/postbote-arbeitet-schnell-angezeigt-meta-2685212.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Münchener Merkur&lt;/a&gt;), and that in turn refers to &lt;i&gt;another&lt;/i&gt; article (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ovb-online.de/kolbermoor/postbote-noeten-freispruch-2678609.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oberbayerisches Volksblatt&lt;/a&gt;).

The interesting part in the original article that was dropped in the recycled articles is that some mail did indeed turn up in a trash container, but it could not be verified if that was him or not. So the real issue was that the post office had lost track of some mail, and the unusual fast postman who did not follow procedure was naturally suspected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked up the German source referred to by this article (<a href="http://www.merkur-online.de/nachrichten/bayern/postbote-arbeitet-schnell-angezeigt-meta-2685212.html" rel="nofollow">Münchener Merkur</a>), and that in turn refers to <i>another</i> article (<a href="http://www.ovb-online.de/kolbermoor/postbote-noeten-freispruch-2678609.html" rel="nofollow">Oberbayerisches Volksblatt</a>).</p>
<p>The interesting part in the original article that was dropped in the recycled articles is that some mail did indeed turn up in a trash container, but it could not be verified if that was him or not. So the real issue was that the post office had lost track of some mail, and the unusual fast postman who did not follow procedure was naturally suspected.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Muigai: Check out the &quot;hierarchical exfoliation&quot; link about. It&#039;s about how organizations get rid of people who think too much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muigai: Check out the &#8220;hierarchical exfoliation&#8221; link about. It&#8217;s about how organizations get rid of people who think too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Muigai</title>
		<link>http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2013/01/05/punish-efficiency/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Muigai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 18:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But I find it quite plausible that he simply got into trouble for using his brain.&quot; :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But I find it quite plausible that he simply got into trouble for using his brain.&#8221; <img src='http://www.johndcook.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect the problem was that the fellow was too efficient. If he had only improved his efficiency say 10%, not enough to make his peers and the official routes look too bad, all might have gone well. In his book &quot;Secrets of Consulting,&quot; Gerald Weinberg warns against making such a large improvement that you embarrass your client. 

Maybe this mailman delivered his assigned mail and simply went home, as if his job were to deliver mail rather than to put in the prescribed number of hours. That really angers some people. They&#039;d rather the work take longer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the problem was that the fellow was too efficient. If he had only improved his efficiency say 10%, not enough to make his peers and the official routes look too bad, all might have gone well. In his book &#8220;Secrets of Consulting,&#8221; Gerald Weinberg warns against making such a large improvement that you embarrass your client. </p>
<p>Maybe this mailman delivered his assigned mail and simply went home, as if his job were to deliver mail rather than to put in the prescribed number of hours. That really angers some people. They&#8217;d rather the work take longer.</p>
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		<title>By: Fredrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Similar, possibly true story, is how Soviet car factory workers came up with a way to reduce weight of the cars. They got a reward - and reduced salary. They were payed by weight of the cars ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar, possibly true story, is how Soviet car factory workers came up with a way to reduce weight of the cars. They got a reward &#8211; and reduced salary. They were payed by weight of the cars <img src='http://www.johndcook.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 16:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

could not find anything on this from the usual news-sites here in germany but I think this could be true.

Sadly using your head is NOT a good thing if it concerns laws and regulations here. It&#039;s almost Orwelian: obey the rules no matter how stupid they are.
And as this is said to have happened in Bavaria (where there is a very conservative mindset common) it&#039;s even more true :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>could not find anything on this from the usual news-sites here in germany but I think this could be true.</p>
<p>Sadly using your head is NOT a good thing if it concerns laws and regulations here. It&#8217;s almost Orwelian: obey the rules no matter how stupid they are.<br />
And as this is said to have happened in Bavaria (where there is a very conservative mindset common) it&#8217;s even more true <img src='http://www.johndcook.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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